Me: For over 10 years South Park was the best satire that ever lived. Before the dark times before the
Luke: How did South Park die?
Me: Trey Parker and Matt Stone who were the gods of comedy before they turned to evil they betrayed and murdered South Park. They were seduced by the dark side of comedy bringing PCness and ultimately sealing the show’s fate.
Season 19 was the season that killed South Park it was the beginning of the Dark Times and 3 years later and were still at those dark times. This world is fucked up we can easily not make good stuff come to an end but all of us still fuck up anyway.
I think Matt and Trey cannot explain the message in this season in a better way. (best season since 2015 until now)
Great breakdown of topics and great research for the quotes that you use to define the meaning of certain terms.
I saw that serie two times i thought i had done the total breakdown i was mistaken.
As a person who lives in Venezuela, I see all this, all the things on tv and all the things you americans do, and how us here in Venezuela are sooo different and how we concern for so many different things and I just can think that you all americans are crazy dude
I think there are some inaccuracies in this explanation of PC culture. I know that this video was made in 2016, but nowadays, advocates of PC behavior do not try to pretend horrible things like slavery never happened. Instead they obsess over reminding people of historical events, as proof that the rest of us somehow have some kind of historical debt. Also, while it is true that many of those "PC Bros" are acting the way they act in order to get laid or to "virtue signal", the majority of people that join PC movements, usually come from the marginalized groups they claim to represent, and in most cases they are not "Bro" types. I also do not think that these people are somehow "fashionable" or part of the "system". In my country and in many other countries, extreme examples of people who want to push PC agendas, actively attack the system, causing damages, occupying buildings and using violence. Sometimes this behavior is so extreme that under no circumstances would it be appropriate for some kind of advertising campaign or gentrification strategy. On the contrary, the chaos caused by those people is the exact opposite of what gentrification would supposedly aim for. Just an observation. Other than that, South Park is an awesome show and watching an analysis from Wisecrack after each episode makes it more entertaining!
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I think Matt Stone and Trey Parker might have read No Logos by Naomi Klein. She released her book around the same time that they started their show and they seem to have a lot of the same criticisms on advertisements influence on our culture
Henry Giroux is a moron. Consumerism is an individual choice and not an obligation. Its equally false that all problems are addressed on a private level. Classical liberalism has a long history of emphasizing voluntary collective action and the freedom not to consume.
You said 'nothing quite fuels the economy as self obsession in mass', but that is false, it literally does not matter what people spend their money or time on. The economy will be fine.
South Park went completely over your head.
They arent saying "PC culture doesn't actually help the oppressed".
South Park is saying "those people aren't oppressed anyway".
They arent diversity mongers like you dude. They hate your ideas.
Can south park survive is a sociologic question, not a philosophic question. You are a sociologist who claims to examine philosophy...but what you do is examine the impact of marketing on society...without bothering with real sociology. You don't even bother to properly examine the marketing. You treat it as a result of previously developed philosophies so you can codify and compartmentalize trendy things, in an effort to dismiss them as reproductions. This is what gives me a headache. You aren't teaching people anything. You're indoctrinating them.
fuck me, i couldn't even make to the 1 minute mark on this one. What about south park has ever been or will ever be smart? Seriously?! Their "smartest" season is the one where they actually have a cohesive story to tell throughout the season...it's not smartness that makes that unique in terms of seasons of south park. Lets see what else you've got.
The season 22 ep 1 also deals with reactions, i believe it deals with desensitization of school shooting, because of how frequent they are (i belive Alva Noe said it better than i can, about perception and how we see more and less at the same time) and the second stort line is about how anything made by some of color is (I.E. black panther in that episode, loved the movie though) is reacted by those of the same race or "group" or if they even saw it. Like if a black man voted for McCain instead of Obama or if someone who is hispanic that cant dance Salsa (like me, i suck at dancing) would shatter cartmans ( or people with very tribalistic views of the world) perception on how people "should" react to things instead of how they "did" react to thing (like ben carson or ted cruz, because no one likes them). Not sure of im right here on the second one, but none the less it was an interesting episode to explore and some of those ideas in this season. In other words please do a episode by episode break down this season, love your stuff guys. Peace.
Interviewer: so you and trey parker have done a wonderful job of integrating the political and social climate we live in today, while keeping it funny and relevant. Tell us, how were you able to make such a complex and deep message in south park while keeping it fresh and funny
trey parker: um.. dude, I have no idea what your talking about
South Park takes down "both sides" of the political argument? Nothing to be proud of. There are more than two sides to most every argument. Including political. By boasting that they take down both sides serves to perpetuate the "2-sides top every argument" myth. We use the other 90% of our brain once we stop thinking in polarities, and go off track. Matt and Trey are still cynically motivated. Fair enough. Great show.
Social awareness gravitates toward the practice of building systems for what human animals want to be, rather than what they actually are. It is the nature of social adaptation to live life as a progressive fantasy.
But all of this is surface play. The depths are not ruled by reason or politics. We do not progress, only cultures do. And even these changes are supplemental to unaltered animal needs.
I can't believe how many people brush off SP as some washed up old comedy like the current Simpsons without even trying to watch it. It has layers and actual depth on top of its fucking comedy gold. Matt and Trey are goddamn gold at setting up their jokes and punchlines.
It's definitely more intelligent than people give it credit for while still being fucking hilarious the only way SP can.
This explains why the UK Conservative party is so messed up, it is a perfect mix of both Neo-liberalism and Egocentric Right-wing policies, the two don't mix and can't co-exist but at the time they feed one another!!
What I think is so what if your trans. Still a dickwad who hit a person. Being gay or coloured or Trans shouldn't be used as a wall of insults and protection. Tons of People undergo sex change surgerys yet she's so brave and shit. My god tokenization of minorities is such bullshit. It's been so rooted in such a short term I heard r my friend refer to someone as black and my eyes widened and shit, because race is not usually used to describe people anymore.
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